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Help needed - duplicate key

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robertmtz

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One of the original keys for my Norge broke. I was able to get a replacement blank ($65). What I can't seem to find is a place that can make a lasercut duplicate of the original. Anyone with experience or suggestions? Thanks.
Bob
 
I just went throught this. You need to find a quality locksmith, you can't just go to the local hardware store. The locksmith didn't have any problem duplicating it, cost me $20.00. The pain in the ass part for me was programing the new key. Sometimes I miss the old days before all the computer stuff.
 
The keys have an immobilizer chip in them, and the bikes ecu needs to be programmed to recognize the key or it won't start. The procedure is outlined in the owners manual.
 
Local Lexus dealer couldn't help- they told me that they order precut keys by thei numbers from Toyota.
I eventually found a locksmith shop with a capable machine. New key works fine.
 
machine is called a sidewinder. the dealers are useless as you found out.
 
I had keys cut at a locksmith who was recommended by our usual locksmith. They work, but I do not know how to program.

Can anyone give a step by step operation to program, including the code numbers when required to enter.

I have never put in a user code.
 
robertmtz........I would suggest contacting your state AAA people and obtaining a list of automotive locksmiths near you. Once obtained, call and verify if they have a machine to duplicate a 4 track key (Kaba/Ilco & Bianchi are the biggies). If you already have a working key and a new blank, they should be able to duplicate. As mentioned earlier, since this is a transponder key, once you obtain the duplicate, you'll need to enroll it into the bike's ECU. Your dealer should be able to talk you through that........BB
 
Similar, but slightly different problem.

Just bought a used '07 Norge. It came with only one key, no key or lock number.

I guess it would be asking too much to have the factory record the lock number by VIN ...

So ---

I'm guessing this will be the process (If anyone has a better idea ....)

Buy a blank key (where?)

Have the key cut --- earlier posts gave me a pretty good idea of how & where

Learn the key to the bike --- with only one key, is it possible? Do the dealers have some magic?

In the owner's manual, I saw a reference to a "user code" that could only be changed by using two keys, but didn't see a thing about what the user code did.

Thanks....

-Bob
 
I have an '07 Norge. Put your good key in the ignition and turn key to "on." Using the Mode button, go to "menu" then to "settings." Under "settings" go to "change code." Once you select "change code" you can use the Mode button to select any 5-digit code you want. Basically, it's a PIN. Once you get the new key made, if it has a chip in it, remove it. You can use a utility knife to cut away any rubber or plastic coverings to get at the chip. Then you can keep the spare key in your wallet or tape it in a hiding place somewhere on the bike. If you need to use the naked spare, insert it and turn to "on", then use the Mode button to insert your PIN (instrument panel will prompt you to do this). Then off you go. Just don't forget your PIN!
 
Saint Nut said:
I have an '07 Norge. Put your good key in the ignition and turn key to "on." Using the Mode button, go to "menu" then to "settings." Under "settings" go to "change code." Once you select "change code" you can use the Mode button to select any 5-digit code you want. Basically, it's a PIN. Once you get the new key made, if it has a chip in it, remove it. You can use a utility knife to cut away any rubber or plastic coverings to get at the chip. Then you can keep the spare key in your wallet or tape it in a hiding place somewhere on the bike. If you need to use the naked spare, insert it and turn to "on", then use the Mode button to insert your PIN (instrument panel will prompt you to do this). Then off you go. Just don't forget your PIN!
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No need to remove the chip. You can have the system learn a new key. You just need one original key and your user code.
 
And to find a blank, your dealer can supply you with a nice expensive MG blank, but I got an Aprilia blank for $10 that's a match.
 
Re: Re:Help needed - duplicate key

guzziks said:
I had keys cut at a locksmith who was recommended by our usual locksmith. They work, but I do not know how to program.

Can anyone give a step by step operation to program, including the code numbers when required to enter.

I have never put in a user code.
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The procedures are in the general service manual here https://www.guzzitech.com/downloads/ca ... -1100.html

These are the procedures for all 5 AM ECUs.

The service codes are listed here https://www.guzzitech.com/forum/196/917.html
 
hello, I ordered a blank key at an aprilia webshop(af1racing )who fits an tuono or rsv4.I found a locksmith who can cut sidewinder keys .the key costs 11 dollar,the shipping to belgium costs 13 dollar,the cutting?I am still waiting for the key.
I don't need to worry for programming of the transponder chip because I don't need the chip as the key is for my pannier wich uses another key .
 
Problem is this:

I have only one key. I do not have the "user code" --- yup, tried all zeros, last 5 of the vin, the service code; none are correct.

Is there any way to "reset code" when you don't have a second key or the last user code?

Disconnecting the battery does not do it.

Can the Axone reset the code?

Worst comes to worst, where is the code stored? Can that be replaced?

Thanks!

-Bob
 
hen197 said:
hello, I ordered a blank key at an aprilia webshop(af1racing )who fits an tuono or rsv4.I found a locksmith who can cut sidewinder keys .the key costs 11 dollar,the shipping to belgium costs 13 dollar,the cutting?I am still waiting for the key.
I don't need to worry for programming of the transponder chip because I don't need the chip as the key is for my pannier wich uses another key .
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hen197,
Are you saying that the Aprillia blanks are the same as MG blanks?
11$ for the key and 13$ shipping is still way cheaper than what I paid for an OEM BLANK - not cut - from a MG dealer in the UK.
 
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