How to Remove / Refit Rear Wheel / Transmission

[Hippo-Drones]

Other than another video I made a couple of years ago I have not found many how to remove or replace the rear wheel on a Moto Guzzi V7. On my previous video I showed how to do so without removing the transmission box assembly, which is just about manageable with a standard 130 tyre. If however like me, you have a wider rear tyre, that way is not possible and is also a bit fiddly, even with the standard sized tyre.
In this video I show how easy/hard it is to remove the transmission box assembly and refit the rear wheel. This also allows access to grease up the shaft bevel gear too.
I do suggest a soft mallet, and you will definitely want some Loctite as well.

 

[Bill Hagan]

Thanks for that.

Enjoyed the improv approach and your humor. Especially like your "sleeve of wizardness."

I'll likely refine my comments here later on your y/t channel and mod this one, as I am -- as I peck out this quick thanks -- 300 miles away from my V7. Doing our monthly eldercare visit in Erie, Pa., to Kathi's 98-YO dad (and his 86-YO girlfriend! ).

Anyway, your vid was very helpful as my V7 sits forlornly with its rear wheel and bevel box off awaiting my return to the top of Virginia ... and screwing up my courage to give reassembling it all another try.




As you can see, below, my bevel box, unlike yours, came off the swingarm forward of the coupler.




That has left an "interesting" problem in reassembly as the driveshaft now drops down in such a way that I have thus far been unable to reattach it despite my inspired cursing.

FWIW, my bevel box slipped right off without the effort yours required. It is a 2017 V7 III, so it had less time to fuse itself into place.



I have no clue why that image loaded upside down, but you can get the picture (so to speak ).

I have yet to try the promising(-sounding) suggestion I have received from kibitzing Guzzisti to put a large "glob" of grease just forward of or directly under the splines of the driveshaft so that I can marry up the coupler to those.

Would appreciate your thoughts and those of others here at convenience.

In an unrelated "P.S.," curious about your logo. Did you spend some time with British airborne forces? The sweatshirt in the center background of my first pic, above, shows why I ask.

Now time to go check on Kathi's dad and companion.

Best wishes,

Bill

 

[Hippo-Drones]

Ahh cheers Bill Haha, with my spannery ability I can't take myself too seriously
Cor, your misses' old man is a bit of a stud!
Am glad you found it helpful, hopefully others will too, even if it to see how not to do things possibly!: D
I was informed by another that mine had come apart differently, I wonder if the trackdays have fused mine together! hahaha
That does look to be awkward it having dropped a bit, hopefully when you reinsert it all it will squidge back together ok, but yes, maybe pack it with a bit of grease to help it all align, and it is a good idea to grease it anyway.

Regarding my logo, although I was in the armed forces (RN submariner) it is unrelated. The Hippo is because when I am naked my belly looks like a hippo head , the gun was part to do with being in the forces, but also my previous channel I made airsoft vids (more ouchy than paintball and a bit more fun), and the parachuting was from me learning to skydive a few years back

 

[Louisv97]

All you do is rotate the box from the cush drive side and eventually it'll slip right on in.

 

[Bill Hagan]

Ahh cheers Bill Haha, with my spannery ability I can't take myself too seriously
Cor, your misses' old man is a bit of a stud!
Am glad you found it helpful, hopefully others will too, even if it to see how not to do things possibly!: D
I was informed by another that mine had come apart differently, I wonder if the trackdays have fused mine together! hahaha
That does look to be awkward it having dropped a bit, hopefully when you reinsert it all it will squidge back together ok, but yes, maybe pack it with a bit of grease to help it all align, and it is a good idea to grease it anyway.

Regarding my logo, although I was in the armed forces (RN submariner) it is unrelated. The Hippo is because when I am naked my belly looks like a hippo head , the gun was part to do with being in the forces, but also my previous channel I made airsoft vids (more ouchy than paintball and a bit more fun), and the parachuting was from me learning to skydive a few years back

Thanks, tho, IMO, all submariners are at least half crazy, so I must now discount appropriately all of your moto-counsel.

Kidding aside, I would last about 30 seconds on a submarine -- even moored safely at dock. I’ve often thought that Psalms 107:23 — "They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters” — should be amended to address going under the sea! What dangerous business that is. Few folks really appreciate what an incredibly significant role that submarines had in ending the Cold War. I know that Soviet leaders did! Sincere salutes to a R.N. submariner sailer from a former U.S. soldier!

Now, back to topic. FWIW, I have tried the slather-with-grease approach, but, so far, no joy. Will try the "glob-under" approach next.

Bill

All you do is rotate the box from the cush drive side and eventually it'll slip right on in.

"Eventually" is a very long time, and "all you do" shows appreciated but unwarranted confidence in my abilities.

Seriously, have you done that or are you speculating ? Nothing wrong with the latter, BTW, and especially not as I solicited suggestions. But I am curious.

Moreover, I have to admit that I have not tried that particular exercise, so if the glob-under mentioned next above fails, what's to lose ...erm ... except dropping the bevel box, I suppose?

That said, after watching the wizard "Hippo-Drones" vid, I am thinking it might be simpler to remove part #2 GU31327783 in this parts list -- which Mandellans oddly call a "hose" -- and, with the coupler -- #5, also a "hose!" -- and connect to the driveshaft splines that way.




In the meantime, I'll continue to listen to my f-i-l's grand tales of playing baseball in Hawaii during WWII. Beats being a submariner or paratrooper back then!

Wait a minute! I was about to hit "post reply" when I noticed that Scott has not weighed in with the answer. And this after I searched for previous problems of this sort. I am a horse ready to be led to water, too.

Bill

 

[Louisv97]

Thanks, tho, IMO, all submariners are at least half crazy, so I must now discount appropriately all of your moto-counsel.

Kidding aside, I would last about 30 seconds on a submarine -- even moored safely at dock. I’ve often thought that Psalms 107:23 — "They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters” — should be amended to address going under the sea! What dangerous business that is. Few folks really appreciate what an incredibly significant role that submarines had in ending the Cold War. I know that Soviet leaders did! Sincere salutes to a R.N. submariner sailer from a former U.S. soldier!

Now, back to topic. FWIW, I have tried the slather-with-grease approach, but, so far, no joy. Will try the "glob-under" approach next.

Bill



"Eventually" is a very long time, and "all you do" shows appreciated but unwarranted confidence in my abilities.

Seriously, have you done that or are you speculating ? Nothing wrong with the latter, BTW, and especially not as I solicited suggestions. But I am curious.

Moreover, I have to admit that I have not tried that particular exercise, so if the glob-under mentioned next above fails, what's to lose ...erm ... except dropping the bevel box, I suppose?

That said, after watching the wizard "Hippo-Drones" vid, I am thinking it might be simpler to remove part #2 GU31327783 in this parts list -- which Mandellans oddly call a "hose" -- and, with the coupler -- #5, also a "hose!" -- and connect to the driveshaft splines that way.


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In the meantime, I'll continue to listen to my f-i-l's grand tales of playing baseball in Hawaii during WWII. Beats being a submariner or paratrooper back then!

Wait a minute! I was about to hit "post reply" when I noticed that Scott has not weighed in with the answer. And this after I searched for previous problems of this sort. I am a horse ready to be led to water, too.

Bill

I have done it before. I casually removed the fibal drive and when it was up until that point when it was time to install it was an "oh shit" moment.
All I did was fiddle the shaft(no homo) and centered it where I hoped it would bite, installed the final drive and did half a turn and on it went. No issues since
Ok I just saw your picture of the splines on the drive shaft. If you move it down more and center it. It should work.
Not very official, but it beats removing the whole swingarm

 

[Bill Hagan]

I have done it before. I casually removed the fibal drive and when it was up until that point when it was time to install it was an "oh shit" moment.
All I did was fiddle the shaft(no homo) and centered it where I hoped it would bite, installed the final drive and did half a turn and on it went. No issues since
Ok I just saw your picture of the splines on the drive shaft. If you move it down more and center it. It should work.
Not very official, but it beats removing the whole swingarm

Thanks.

Actually, moving it down is not the issue. "Up" is. I think you missed my "I have no clue why that image loaded upside down."

It is getting it up -- so to speak! -- is the issue, thus my discussion earlier about using the "grease glob" to hold the shaft in position to receive the coupler.

I'm still in Erie, but hope to give this all a try over the weekend.

Grazie,

Bill

 

[Hippo-Drones]

Am just wondering if it may have slid in the shaft housing, are you able to poke something in there and push it back towards the gearbox, which may help centre it a bit???

 

[Bill Hagan]

Vittorio in Virginia!

As I mentioned, I have been traveling and otherwise unable to spend time on Guzzi tasks (or just have fun doing nothing at all in the Moto Grappa), so, back from Erie last night, I got right to it.

Before I forget, sincere thanks to the many here and elsewhere who chimed with suggestions on how to get this done. It may look and sound simple, but it sure wasn’t … at least not for me.

The real key to success was getting the little bit of extra length from what, as I previously mentioned, Guzzi (oddly) calls “hose.” See # 2, here:





With that and the coupler, I was able to insert it and mesh with the driveshaft’s splines, then more easily bring the bevel box into place and engage all.

Pix of today’s win are here: https://bill-and-kathi.smugmug.com/Beating-the-Bevel-Box-/n-pmd9Sd/

Naturally, there was drama today, but nothing catastrophic. Aside from my usual lethargy and sloth, I am painfully slow when working alone. I just do not want to miss through inattention something fundamental and likely obvious to all except me.

Now, it's time for some celebratory sipping.

Bill