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2021-on V7-850 E5 Performance thread

FMerlino said:
Are you getting any check engine lights? What gas mileage are you getting? I ride mine solo, and am old and slow and generally avoid interstate highways, and get 48 to 50 mpg on 93 octane. I was hoping that someone in my area (Huntington WV) would have performed the update using UpMap so that I could meet up and compare. Unless it really makes a huge difference, I would rather keep the stock map. Not looking for power, just rideability.
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As noted above, this thread title 2021-on V7-850 E5 Performance thread, is devoted to those who want their bikes to run much better than stock (with insanely lean E5 emissions). If you ride slow and focus on gas mileage, this is not a thread for you. Stick with stock.
Allowing the motor to run as Guzzi would love to (but can't), gives substantial benefits to the health and longevity of the engine. You can read the reviews on the STORE link above for ECU flashes. ;)
 
GTM® said:
As noted above, this thread title 2021-on V7-850 E5 Performance thread, is devoted to those who want their bikes to run much better than stock (with insanely lean E5 emissions). If you ride slow and focus on gas mileage, this is not a thread for you. Stick with stock.
Allowing the motor to run as Guzzi would love to (but can't), gives substantial benefits to the health and longevity of the engine. You can read the reviews on the STORE link above for ECU flashes. ;)
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Based on that, and that the bike has stock pipes, tank vented to atmosphere and the GTM SAS installed, I ordered the UpMap device from GTM. I might be old and slow, but I still need it to run correctly.

Thanks,
FMerlino
 
For now, I have tested the "US maps" they offer in house on my AFR dyno, and everything was quite good.
 
I'm taking delivery of a new '22 Stone this Saturday, and will be keeping it stock for the time being. After reading this thread it looks like the only updated map available is the V7 850M 21 US OEM purchased from the UPMAP store, correct?

Also, does anyone know whether Moto Guzzi updated the OEM map for the '22 models and addressed the issues experienced with the '21 models?

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Farilpieno57 said:
After reading this thread it looks like the only updated map available is the V7 850M 21 US OEM purchased from the UPMAP store, correct?

Also, does anyone know whether Moto Guzzi updated the OEM map for the '22 models that addressed the issues experienced with the '21 models?
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Correct, which is still a good map to run. One map is free.
I personally have no experience with factory maps. Know that they are still are emission constrained, so it would be a band-aid. Many here try to debate with me on it, which I won't engage or further discuss any more.
 
I finally ordered the Upmap for my V7 Centenario. I know I’m going to buy slip-ons and modify the air filter but spending $500 and smoothing the stock fueling while I’m saving my pennies for the other parts is a low tech installment plan! I’m looking forward to getting the surging addressed.
 
Today Todd did a few pulls on the Dyno with my 2022 V7 850 Special.
Original exhaust, original Airbox .
Modifications done before are SAS delete, canister delete and gas tank vented to the atmosphere. Also installed V85 Valve covers because I just like them better...
Anything else on the engine was stock!
Established baseline.....
Who wants to guess...

5F49520B E24C 4B74 B2F8 0A1B42344772
 
Valve covers on the V7 look nice! Do they fit in place of the v7 ones with no modifications needed?
 
Your bike is looking great! Can’t wait to see the end product and performance upgrades.
 
Agreed. I have the Centenario and love the colour but find myself wishing there were more chrome finishes on the lower half and had dual clocks. Personal preference I guess.

Also keeping an eye out on how the performance mods go for you. I have Agostini pipes, SAS block offs, DNA filter and the ECU remap so I’m definitely interested in seeing what more Todd can squeeze out of our V7’s!
 
Todd and this team are amazing!
Nothing escapes them! Attention to detail!
I’m so glad they’re only one hour away from me!
 
jstorm1 said:
Agreed. I have the Centenario and love the colour but find myself wishing there were more chrome finishes on the lower half and had dual clocks. Personal preference I guess.

Also keeping an eye out on how the performance mods go for you. I have Agostini pipes, SAS block offs, DNA filter and the ECU remap so I’m definitely interested in seeing what more Todd can squeeze out of our V7’s!
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What was your baseline?
 
jstorm1 said:
Agreed. I have the Centenario and love the colour but find myself wishing there were more chrome finishes on the lower half and had dual clocks. Personal preference I guess.

Also keeping an eye out on how the performance mods go for you. I have Agostini pipes, SAS block offs, DNA filter and the ECU remap so I’m definitely interested in seeing what more Todd can squeeze out of our V7’s!
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De-black the exhaust headers, add the special Chrome heat shield and Todd's instrument centering bracket and it looks greater.
 
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lemans850i said:
What was your baseline?
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hard to say since I haven’t been able to test it out and get some numbers. The most I can say about it is based on feel and it’s pretty much in line with what everyone whose done similar has said. Smoother ride that pulls hard throughout the rev range.
 
kildareman said:
Denmark the exhaust headers, as the special Chrome heat shield and Todd's instrument centering bracket and it looks greater.
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Oh yeah, I’ve seen your posts over in the mods thread (always cool seeing the different ways people make the bike their own) and the headers do give it a different look for sure. I just centered and lowered my instrument cluster recently as well and it definitely does look better too.
 
I snapped a similar pic once we popped the mufflers and side covers on. Baseline (stock bike) pull gave ~51.8 hp on a 1300 mile motor. Didn't get to dyno the slip-ons yet. I’ll be posting as we go. @lemans850i is crazy in the best of ways. Appreciate the opportunity to do the R&D on this fun journey.

As a point to document here, the E5 models have two cats per cylinder, one in the headers and one in the muffler, so four (4!) total.

F15EC47A 64BC 45F7 95EB B690331A9DA6
 
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