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UpMap Q&A

DR.ZAP said:
Installed the T800 UpMap a few days ago, and I'm thoroughly impressed with the difference in throttle response, especially below 3k RPM!

One issue I did have was with my Android and the UpMap application. It was completely unable to 'find' the T800 - the Bluetooth icon would come up, it would go to the 'founded device' screen, and then nothing would happen. The GTM video AND the GM instructions both say it can take awhile, so I left it there while I was doing a few other things on the bike. Even after 15-20 minutes, there was still nothing for me to select. I used my wife's iPhone and it took MAYBE 5s for the device to pop up once the app hit that screen...

My phone is a Google Pixel 6, up to date on firmware, etc, and the app was downloaded within two days of attempting the install. Has anyone else run into this problem? Thankfully, I wasn't planning to mount it permanently to track rides and whatnot, so it's certainly not the end of the world.
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Yep, same thing. I was waiting for the app to find the device for a long time and nothing was happening. I started the procedure again from the very start and still didn't work. Started again 3rd time and it found the device very quickly.
 
Warnzie said:
Anyone successfully contacted upmap? Having a few fuelling issues with the map I got for my v85tt and hoping to contact them to help them make a refinement to the map as it would seem a lot of us v85 owners are experiencing the bucking sensation. Email contact on their website won't work either:tmi:....if only we could get Todds upmap's
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Not tried to contact upmap, I can say tho that the distributor in Europe, Guareschi Moto, aren't great communicators. I believe the V85 UpMap maps ( branded GCorse) were developed by them, but I'm not certain. My V85 certainly runs smooth with the map I have in and much better than stock. I don't get any bucking. Mines an E5 with arrow headers and Y pipe, stock muffler. K&N. I omitted to take the tape off the second airhole in the filter box lid so that's still in place.

Running the V85 EU 21 OEM N Zard map
 
ohhhh interesting Kurt...I have much the same setup as you here in Aussie land apart from a mistral muffler and get bucking at 3,000rpm after more than 1/4 throttle...I assumed it was an overly rich issue - aka too much fuel for the plugs to burn. But interesting you still have the tape on one side of your airbox...I have drilled 3 x 2cm holes on my airbox to see if it helps with the bucking...if not then easy to plug with grommets but in my past experience bucking usually indicated a rich condition rather than lean....been in the UK im assuming you chose the EU map??
 
Kurt999 said:
Not tried to contact upmap, I can say tho that the distributor in Europe, Guareschi Moto, aren't great communicators. I believe the V85 UpMap maps ( branded GCorse) were developed by them, but I'm not certain.
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Nothing related to UpMap has been easy on the communication front, including GC. No need to guess, yes, GC supplied the map data to UpMap for their portal. You'll see an earlier post here for our attempts to come to an agreement to do so which fell (faceplant) flat.
 
Warnzie said:
ohhhh interesting Kurt...I have much the same setup as you here in Aussie land apart from a mistral muffler and get bucking at 3,000rpm after more than 1/4 throttle...I assumed it was an overly rich issue - aka too much fuel for the plugs to burn. But interesting you still have the tape on one side of your airbox...I have drilled 3 x 2cm holes on my airbox to see if it helps with the bucking...if not then easy to plug with grommets but in my past experience bucking usually indicated a rich condition rather than lean....been in the UK im assuming you chose the EU map??
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Guys, this thread isn't for mapping talk please. This is a simple Q&A thread regarding the device itself.
That said, quick reply: Do not guess on mapping. There is no overly rich condition associated with any part of a stock or UpMaps for the E4 or E5 models.
I will not chat further on this here, and this will all get deleted.
 
Warnzie said:
ohhhh interesting Kurt...I have much the same setup as you here in Aussie land apart from a mistral muffler and get bucking at 3,000rpm after more than 1/4 throttle...I assumed it was an overly rich issue - aka too much fuel for the plugs to burn. But interesting you still have the tape on one side of your airbox...I have drilled 3 x 2cm holes on my airbox to see if it helps with the bucking...if not then easy to plug with grommets but in my past experience bucking usually indicated a rich condition rather than lean....been in the UK im assuming you chose the EU map??
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Yep EU map . Todd says no more mapping talk, gotta respect that as it's his site. PM me if u need anything further. BW K999
 
Kurt999 said:
Yep EU map . Todd says no more mapping talk, gotta respect that as it's his site. PM me if u need anything further. BW K999
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I think given his huge investment in money, equipment, time, and training, and also that he sells turnkey solutions for fueling issues, that Todd asking that fueling not be bantered around at GuzziTech, seems unquestionably reasonable to me. I support him wholeheartedly on this.

This is no game to him. He has serious $$$ invested in his offerings. Having owned my own motorcycle workshop, I can completely understand.
 
Mindis said:
Yep, same thing. I was waiting for the app to find the device for a long time and nothing was happening. I started the procedure again from the very start and still didn't work. Started again 3rd time and it found the device very quickly.
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Glad it finally worked for you! I started over multiple times with no resolution... Weird.
 
Todd's site Todd's right, no probs here👌 As I keep saying, and I'm sure we all feel the same, hopefully Upmap take Todd's maps🙏🙏 crazy if they dont
 
Is anyone else experiencing some pretty sharp bucking at idle when up to speed? I can feather the clutch out from a dead stop with no throttle and it's smooth as can be right up until I've let the clutch out all the way. At that point, if I don't apply throttle it turns into a bucking bronco. Same happens when I slow down on a closed throttle to idle - it's fine right up until it gets down to idle and then gets funky.

I know this is a super fun 'feature' of the EFI on many bikes, but wondering if anyone's has gotten worse post-UpMaps.
 
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I presume you should wait until the engine is run in before changing any ECU settings.
 
MMV9 said:
I presume you should wait until the engine is run in before changing any ECU settings.
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Why would you presume this? Decades of info on this site on why this simply isn't the case... try a search here on Fueling, and click on the STORE tab above, and read the reviews here.
Which model do you own?
 
I'm picking up a V9 Bobber in a few days, I guess I was asking was because the dealer would be doing the first service after the 1,500 km run in.

Mat
 
I think that you can assume that the current FACTORY map was in place during PDI. Most dealers are aware that up mapping is happening and why. Soo you can tell the service person to leave the map alone when they give it the first service. Some may insist on reinstalling the factory map. I have always had the first service done at the dealer with a new bike, but never ever return. My choice would be to wait to upmap, but that isn't a gold standard....just me.
 
If they update the map, they update the map... You have the ability to switch it back very quickly. If it's a big concern, you can put your stock map back on and pull the T800 off before you head to the dealer for service.
 
Trying to access the up map website and app.

Cannot access either the app or the site from my android phone, ipad, or laptop.

Anyone else having this issue with UpMap?
 
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