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Everything a Stelvio owner needs to know in one post

Discussion in 'Stelvio Chat & Tech' started by ecka00, Jan 26, 2012.

  1. ecka00

    ecka00 Tuned and Synch'ed

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    All, There seems to be a need for a "what new owners need to know" and "quick reference for existing owners" all in one post. If something similar already exists let me know but I'm going to assume not at this point. Below our some incomplete items that will require additional research on my end or feedback from the forum and I also welcome any suggestions for additional information. If this works out hopefully we can get whomever manages this forum to place this statically at the top of "stelvio chat & tech".

    Maintenance Items:

    Tires: 2008/09 OEM

    Front Pirelli Scorpion Sync 110/80 R19 - 59V 36.3 PSI
    Rear Pirelli Scorpion Sync 180/55 R17 - 73V 42.1 PSI

    Oil Specifications:

    AGIP Racing 4T SAE 10W-60 - 3.5 qts. w/filter
    Oil Filter Hi-Flo 551
    Uses OEM brand cap wrench "B" found at Auto Zone
    Alternative (use at your own risk)
    Filter: Bosch 3400 (longer) or 3330 (shorter, but recommended by Piaggio USA)
    Oil: AMSOIL SAE 60 - MCSQT-EA ($12.20 qrt)

    Transmission (Gear Box) oil:
    AGIP Gear MG/S SAE 85 W 90 -500ml

    CARC oil:
    AGIP Gear SAE 80 W 90 -380ml

    Engine:

    Valve Specifications:
    A5 Motor valve specs: Step by step instruction: HERE
    .10 mm intake
    .15 mm exhaust

    A8 Motor valve specs:
    .10 mm intake
    .20 exhaust

    Recall Notices:

    Service Communication: 2009-001 USA PRE-UPDATE CAMPAIGN NOTICE
    Technical Update Campaign-Stelvio 4V 1200 Engine- Camshaft
    follower/bucket replacement
    Models affected: 2009 Stelvio 4V models within a specified VIN range
    Stelvio 4V: ZGULZC0029M112385 to ZGULZC0009M112689
    Production Date Range: 04/29/08 – 10/02/2008




    working on below information......................


    Engine Performance: 02 sensor, modifications

    Known issues: eg., Front fork axle bracket--over tightening cracks, Mono Shock leaks, Condensation in instrument panel, Spark plug caps, Center Stand, CARC Vent, Speedo censor, etc.

    General Maintenance: Oil Filter and Oil, best places to buy

    C.A.R.C (Italian for compact reactive cardan shaft drive) vent issue and fix

    Accessories and after market: engine guards, wind deflectors, hard/soft bags, gps, heated grips, windshields, etc.
     
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  2. BravoBravo

    BravoBravo Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    Nice idea! I always have trouble remembering tire sizes. Too many numbers for my feeble mind to commit to memory! :D

    Bruce
     
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    gdp Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    ...perhaps quantity specs on the various oil applications?......
     
  4. gdp

    gdp Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    ....also, for the sake of clarity.does gearbox oil mean...the rear-wheel ring and pinion?..
     
  5. WayneOrwig

    WayneOrwig GT Reference

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    How about clearing up the transmission / gearbox name. Most people here call it a rear drive or such, not a transmission.
    And adding the fluid volumes would be good.
    Thanks.
     
  6. ecka00

    ecka00 Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I copied the gearbox and transmission termonology from the shop manual. If anyone knows which is the rear drive and any other more common terms please reply and I will add them to their corresponding term that I copied--please specify in your post. Also, I love the feedback however, if you know the answer to any suggestions you may have please include in your reply as well. I've spent about an hour so far trying to find information on quantities for fluids and found nothing. They're not even list in the shop manual I downloaded. They may be in the owner's manual so I'll start digging through my closet. Much appreciated -A
     
  7. dldeano

    dldeano Just got it firing!

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    Just serviced mine, and was confused by the transmission/gearbox translation but made do with help from my shop and Wayne- Thanks for the help :D

    Here is what I got:

    Transmission (6 speed thing you change gears with) 500mL Agip 85W/90
    Final Drive 380mL 80W/90(though I spilled a bit so that may be a tad high)

    A5 Motor valve specs:
    .10 mm intake
    .15 mm exhaust

    A8 Motor valve specs:
    .10 mm intake
    .20 exhaust

    Engine oil cap. says 3.5L (I don't think I took that much, though)

    Oil Filter Hi-Flo 551
    Uses OEM brand cap wrench "B" found at Auto Zone
     
  8. gdp

    gdp Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    ....a somewhat heretical question:...what is the problem with 20-50 engine oil instead of 10-60?
     
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    StelvioGT Tuned and Synch'ed

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    My shop manual says 80W90 in the CARC. 85W90 in the transmission (gear box).
     
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    ecka00 Tuned and Synch'ed

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    I updated the carc and transmission information--did I get it correct? Also, what is your opinion on the bosch oil filter as an alternative?
     
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    kmartin Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I've been using Mobil 1 gear lube in both for 24,000 mi (actually 18,000 if I subtract the time with factory oil) with no issues, it's 75W90.

    Keith
     
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    Goodvibes Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I have used the Bosch premium filters on my cars with no known issues. I use WIX on the Griso.
     
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    Goodvibes Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I replaced my gearbox & CARC factory fluids with Redline Shockproof http://www.redlineoil.com/product.aspx?pid=44&pcid=4 at 600 miles. Nearing 12,000 now with no issues and plan to leave it in there till 20,000.
     
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    mohawkeye Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    I've also used Redline Shockproof exclusively on my '09, in both the gearbox and CARC, and change every 12,000 miles.

    A small (but maybe important to a new owner) quibble regarding oil capacities. According to my service manual (Stelvio 4v - 1200 -Eng- 08-09.pdf), page 12 states that gearbox capacity is 500ml and CARC capacity is 380ml. As I just performed oil changes (with no overrun to either two days ago), it would appear that the manual is the more correct.

    No offense meant, ecka00. Overall, your effort should be appreciated!
     
  15. ITSec

    ITSec Cruisin' Guzzisti GT Contributor

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    The Mobil1 gear oil is a full synthetic 75w90, and it meets all specs for the CARC bikes for both uses.

    Another good oil filter is the Mobil1-102 - it fits all the 1200 bikes as far as I know...
     
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    GTM® Administrator Staff Member GT di Razza Pura

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    Piaggio Tech USA recommends the Bosch 3330, however I use the 3400 which is a little longer.
     
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    gdp Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    ...see if I've got this right: my standard 09 Stellie is running a rear 180/55 by17... But NTX is running 150/70 by 17....correct?...So to get the more balanced turn-in, I'm gonna need an NTX wheel?.... Dare I ask how much these wheels retail for?...gdp
     
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    gdp Cruisin' Guzzisti

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    WHY CAN'T I MOUNT A 150/ 70 x 17 rear on my 09 Stelvio? What happens? Does the tire try to fly off? I'm wanting the quicker turn-in of the NTX set-up.
     
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    The stock rear Stelvio wheel is 5.5", the NTX wheel is 4.25" - tires are designed for specific rim widths, and you can go one size down easily, i.e. 180/55 down to 170/60. A 150/70 would NOT bead-up on the rim.

    I used to be able to get the NTX wheel here in the US for ~$950, however there was a price re-structuring... and now it's $1550+, however I have ordered a few sets of the new cast aluminum wheels (front and rear) which should be affordable (and arriving in the next 30 days or less). Contact me direct for info.
     
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    ...Factory air filter....or...is there indeed a better way to go?
     

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